Joined on September 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM

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z0000: Hey I am here

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Moderator: z0000 who are you?:)

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z0000: Got the wrong name I am going to leave and use the other

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Moderator: OK!

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Harvey Scribner: Hello

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Moderator: Hi

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Harvey Scribner: I am new to this one

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Moderator: yup

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Moderator: it's a toggle

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Harvey Scribner: but it is working ok

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Moderator: so be sure to click it off again

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Moderator: that's OK

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Moderator: we don't really need the vidoe

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Moderator: vidoe

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noel: I will not use the video..

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Moderator: we'll give them a few minutes

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noel: How has everyone's school year started?

Left on September 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Joined on September 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM

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Harvey Scribner: Sorry

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Harvey Scribner: I am back

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Harvey Scribner: School year is a train wreck as usual

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Harvey Scribner: HI!!!

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Moderator: yup

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Moderator: gotta do both

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Moderator: because only one can have the mike at a time

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Moderator: be sure to click off after you've talked

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Moderator: kind of like a "push to talk"

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noel: Hey...I hear you...If you have your mic on we can't talk

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Moderator: Rob, can you hear us?

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Rob: Yes I can hear you

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Moderator: got it

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Harvey Scribner: I can chat like this

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Rob: Sure, no problem.

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Harvey Scribner: is there a way to make the chat window bigger?

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noel: What do you have a lot to say?

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Rob: Yes, that seems to work, by clicking and dragging the corner

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Harvey Scribner: I am good typing, did alot of it overseas

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Allison Carpenter: hi everyone

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Harvey Scribner: many conversations on yahoo chat

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noel: Hi Allison

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Harvey Scribner: hello rob

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Rob: correct, PA DCNR, Regional Program Coordinator, yes, what you said works.

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Moderator: Jill cannot get in

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Moderator: I'm going to email her the link

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Moderator: you can type on the whiteboard as notes

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Moderator: and we can save that

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Moderator: Jill is in!

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Moderator: brb

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Moderator: I'm back

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Jill Greiner: I am in - can you hear me/

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Moderator: yes

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Moderator: can hear you

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Moderator: sometimes the audio rushes to keep up

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Moderator: hence the Mickey Mouse voice:)

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Allison Carpenter: great

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noel: I have 1 elementary teacherhere and have a middle school class on board...

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noel: I have a hs teacher interested too

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Moderator: for interactive sites

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Jill Greiner: yes - depending on the project and if it fits

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noel: All VC related

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Jill Greiner: yes

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Jill Greiner: and secondary?

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Harvey Scribner: If not the fall, winter?

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Harvey Scribner: I am fine except for PSSA's  All curriculums turn in the Spring

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noel: I am good either way...for grade levels

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Harvey Scribner: no problem, but then what do we do for an elementary during the winter....

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Jill Greiner: HS?  I have MS teachers

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Harvey Scribner: I would think the park trip would work better for the elementary and a research project or home based inside project for the fall for older students

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Allison Carpenter: MS will be fine too

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Harvey Scribner: but I am good with whatever the consensus is

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Rob: Yes, for collection of critters, for sure, but the Watershed Curriculum hopes that you'll get out more than just once a year.

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Harvey Scribner: little kids in the park seems awfully fun

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Allison Carpenter: Jill- are your teachers agreeable to a spring project?

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noel: I have transportation issues (money) for elementary trips...HS is there

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Harvey Scribner: ok

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noel: that would be great

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Jill Greiner: Thye need to know more about  what the project is and how it fits - concern is about PSSA schedle

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Harvey Scribner: i agree jill

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noel: I can make it work either way depending on our needs

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Harvey Scribner: I have an elementary school next door that will work with me too

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Rob: Are you teachers familiar with your local State Parks?  My understanding is that you are all located across the state?

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Moderator: yes

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Moderator: western PA, pocono area, harrisburg area, philly, and chester county

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noel: yes...we I have 2 in resonable distance

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Moderator: Rob, is there curriculum through the state parks program

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Moderator: ?

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Harvey Scribner: i have fairmount park

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Allison Carpenter: yes...they are seperate

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Rob: Yes, we do. Watershed Education.  A state award winning curriculum.

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Allison Carpenter: we will do an elementary project and a secondary project.

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Harvey Scribner: i think we should specify the project itself first....then decide when to do it

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Harvey Scribner: what did we decide about schedules first

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Rob: Watersheds is part of the State Standards for Environment and Ecology.

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Harvey Scribner: unless we do a mentor project

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Harvey Scribner: the high school/middle schoolers present to an elementary in  one project

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noel: So let's choose now

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Harvey Scribner: or combine both projects?

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Rob: Our Watershed Education Curriculum is designed for grades 6-12

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Moderator: Good to know Rob

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Harvey Scribner: first project gets demonstrated and explained to the elementary level and then we have both projects outlined

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Harvey Scribner: why reinvent the wheel

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Harvey Scribner: The high school project runs early spring then they present to elementary students a month later and have a final round of elementary assessment....piggyback the projects around one curriculum

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Moderator: yes but PSSAs would be a pain in teh butt

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Moderator: for the spring

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Moderator: to try to get all that in

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Harvey Scribner: not in March or even Feb

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noel: no my teacher will do whatever

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Moderator: May?

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Moderator: for the actual videoconference

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Allison Carpenter: please talk louder into the microphone

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Moderator: the pre-videoconference stuff will be ongoing beforehand

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Harvey Scribner: The high school project runs early spring then they present to elementary students a month later and have a final round of elementary assessment....piggyback the projects around one curriculum

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noel: I can't hear

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Harvey Scribner: type pleaser

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noel: no

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Allison Carpenter: NO

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Harvey Scribner: please

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Allison Carpenter: please talk louder into the microphone

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Harvey Scribner: move microphone away from mouth i guess

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Harvey Scribner: lets get a specific project

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Moderator: rob, can you describe the curriculum?

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Moderator: can it be applied broadly?

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Harvey Scribner: much better

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Harvey Scribner: tell us about a specific project you would like to run

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Rob: I'd love too.  1st can I suggest that studying bacteria levels is going to be much harder than studying the aquatic insect, or macroinvertebrates in the stream.

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Jill Greiner: I do

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Harvey Scribner: how would we utilize I2 to facilitate it? or present it?

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Moderator: Thanks rob

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Harvey Scribner: we are speacking so generally

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Moderator: thanks for the input

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Harvey Scribner: so lets come up with a project that fits the teachers and the curriculum he is talking about

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Rob: How about how water shapes land?

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Harvey Scribner: our 9th graders are doing generally science....i can make anything fit, or find a class of biology or chemistry that would work too

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noel: Yes but that would be in the spring for grades 6 +  what about fall and elemenetary

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Harvey Scribner: biology of water, chemistry of water, erosion, etc

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Harvey Scribner: organisms

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Jill Greiner: You go ahead on that line and these teachers cannot fir it but I will take part and look for HS teachers.

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Harvey Scribner: what are the other teachers doing in their curriculms that we can fit into a state park trip?

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Allison Carpenter: Hi Noel...we will discuss the fall project in a bit once our high school guest have left the meeting.

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Harvey Scribner: so we are now discussing the elementary project?

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Harvey Scribner: good

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noel: if we choose a gradelevel we could then align it to the standard more specifically if that is what you want to do

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Harvey Scribner: are the teachers HS/MS

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Harvey Scribner: what will fit their curriculum?

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Jill Greiner: I am here

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Rob: Watershed Ed. looks at the watershed from all perspectives.  Biologically, Chemically, and Physically.  So in the course of study students study what is living in the water, what chemicals are in the water and at what levels, and then how the volume of water, or flow changes through out the year. It incorporates, history, naturally history, linguistics..etc.

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noel: my teacher is elementaryu

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Harvey Scribner: Rob, we have Fairmount park here.....a day of collecting samples of erosion or something?

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noel: can we see Rob's curriculum to see if something would fit?

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Harvey Scribner: what about an online program with Rob and a rep from Aca of NAt Sciences in tandem

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Moderator: that's what I was thinking

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Harvey Scribner: they already have the data

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Moderator: our field trip

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Harvey Scribner: we collect data, other class analyzes, and then we all present

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Harvey Scribner: coordinate it

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Rob: I'm sure I can arrange getting a hard copy to Vernice, but I don't think it's online.

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Allison Carpenter: that would be great

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Allison Carpenter: please send that to Vernice

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noel: Can we contact our DCNR coordinator in our area to get it

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Rob: Yes, it is a standardized curriculum.

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Rob: Where in the West?

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noel: Elk county

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Rob: Ok, do you know you're closest SP?

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Harvey Scribner: I also have a class avaliable in LA who could participate somehow and one in NJ

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noel: Bendigo and sizerville and parker dam

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Moderator: We have funding through MAGPI for the field trip correct?

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Jill Greiner: Does the group already have a setup MAGPI fall fieldtrip set?

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Harvey Scribner: lets just come up with a lab style assignment and include as many classes as possible....like I said....one group collects, one group analyzes in lab and we all get together twice (beginning and end)

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Moderator: field trip meaning us

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Rob: Oh great. I know that at least at Sizerville and Parker Dam, they have educators that facilitators of the WE curriculum

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Jill Greiner: I would like to see teachers involved rather than just us.

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noel: It is a long way for me to do that if I can do it closer

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Harvey Scribner: i am sure that fairmount has some resources here in philly

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Rob: The workshop is a 2 day program.  they don't have to be back to back but it does help for consistancy.

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Rob: Faimount would have resources, but not the SP curriculum.

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noel: I would for 2 days...

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Harvey Scribner: but they would be able to have a parallel curiiculum...we also have state parks near here

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noel: Could we VC it?

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Harvey Scribner: i have no problem with nockamixon

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Harvey Scribner: or anywhere else

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Rob: I'm sure we could work something out.  It's typically 8 hours indoor training and then the next is a field day, running the activities at the water.

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noel: Come to elk county HAHAA

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Jill Greiner: also beautiful

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Rob: Correct, I'm thinking we could run something out of French Creek SP even closer for you eh?

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noel: where is it

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Harvey Scribner: could we run it as an online training for the kids and then tape the outdoor version for showing in the class later

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Moderator: educators are really pressed for time

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Moderator: meaning...our schools won't let us go anywhere:)

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Harvey Scribner: we could actually use that as the training over the web

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Harvey Scribner: we go and then take the training back to the classroom

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Rob: Thats a question for the powers that be in Harrisburg.  I'm sure we could work something out...but I can't give the green light to that right now.

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Harvey Scribner: that would allow for local projects near the schools instead of long field trips

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Harvey Scribner: we do the training and then we train online and get feeddback in a second webcast

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noel: Budgets right now are non existent

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Harvey Scribner: that is the project

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Harvey Scribner: yes yes yes

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Rob: Correct Harvey, that is the idea behind the teacher workshop...you get trained and then utilize the curriculum with your schools as you see fit.  Our staff will be here for future support.

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Harvey Scribner: we take back a project from our train the trainer

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Harvey Scribner: fit for the kids to work

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Harvey Scribner: yes, thats it

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Harvey Scribner: absolutely!!!!!

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Harvey Scribner: chesapeake watershed runs throughout the state

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Harvey Scribner: different samples from different parts

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Harvey Scribner: excellent

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Moderator: we can do the sharing and analyzing online

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Harvey Scribner: good

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Rob: What allison described is just what we do in the WE curriculum

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Harvey Scribner: perfext

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noel: If we want to do watersheds, why not have the kids go to the stream with an onion bag, collect specimins....take them back to the class, record the data and then research the findings and then present to others through VC

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Harvey Scribner: perfect

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Moderator: yes noel!

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Moderator: onion bag?

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Harvey Scribner: how much is the training rob?

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Rob: The project is then based on what they find...and how to improve their local watershed.

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noel: Mesh bag

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noel: and what lives in what areas

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noel: why things are their

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noel: oops there

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Harvey Scribner: day one intro webcast to classes and project presentation

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Rob: It might be 15.00/teacher?  I'd have to double check.

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Harvey Scribner: two weeks later analyze and share data

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Harvey Scribner: two weeks later wrap up

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Jill Greiner: Sounds fascinating and very doable. What grade level are you seeing have this in their curriculum i your schools?

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noel: with graphs and explainations

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Harvey Scribner: lets do the pd.....act 48?  haha  do you validate parking? wawa coffee?

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Harvey Scribner: 9th here

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Jill Greiner: I will ask my HS teachers.

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Harvey Scribner: we will participate from the drexel teleconference room

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Harvey Scribner: lets set some goal dates for project timelines

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Harvey Scribner: gathering and testing and analyzing costs?

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Rob: Most parks will have the equipment available if they coordinate a field trip with them.

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Harvey Scribner: ok

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Rob: Allison, what school are you located at?

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noel: what equipment do you think we would need other than microscopes and petri dishes

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Moderator: Rob, good to know

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Harvey Scribner: University City HS Philadelphia

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Rob: Are you familiar with Nescopeck EE Center?

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noel: St. Marys Area

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noel: butter dishes

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Allison Carpenter: @ Rob:  yes...a little bit...that's kinda far from us.

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Harvey Scribner: I thnki some givaway items for participants might be good

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Harvey Scribner: YES basic timeline

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Harvey Scribner: my outlook is open..........still no answer on the validated parking and the coffee issue?

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noel: April 15-may 15 pssa

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noel: what grade level?  I need to know

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Harvey Scribner: great job ROB

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Rob: me too. Thanks.

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Jill Greiner: Thanks, Rob!

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Harvey Scribner: do we want a presentation from academy of nat sciences to kick off?

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noel: Thanks

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noel: nope

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Jill Greiner: Any ideas for elementary projects

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Harvey Scribner: is that nope to me?

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noel: no...no date  keep up

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Harvey Scribner: 12 credits at GMC and Full time here

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Moderator: ding, ding, ding!

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Harvey Scribner: kidding

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Harvey Scribner: wed ok

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Moderator: 3:30 pm again?

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Harvey Scribner: oct 7th

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Moderator: works for me

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Harvey Scribner: we need a good plan by then

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noel: what do we need to do

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Harvey Scribner: ok

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Harvey Scribner: yes

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noel: That idea was the elementary idea....

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Moderator: click the A to type

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Harvey Scribner: are you going to put the notes on the wiki?

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Jill Greiner: animal life

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Moderator: I can save these files

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Moderator: and post them

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Harvey Scribner: norristown zoo is awesome!!

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Moderator: on the whiteboard

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Harvey Scribner: we could do something with them

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Harvey Scribner: ok

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Allison Carpenter: @ Noel:  is your teacher still with us?

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noel: yes

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Allison Carpenter: @ Noel: are any of these topics meeting the teachers needs?

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noel: fifth

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Jill Greiner: Noel, What grade does your techer teach and where does she see any of this?

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Jill Greiner: fitting/

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Harvey Scribner: I can get any grade next door....let me know

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noel: Water sheds is for the fifth grade

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noel: she ran to get her standards

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Harvey Scribner: 5th?  middle school

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Jill Greiner: animals and habitats and

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Harvey Scribner: lets go with the young ones.....

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Harvey Scribner: 2nd 3rd?

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noel: she loves to share with the older kids

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Jill Greiner: like 2nd and 3rd idea

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Harvey Scribner: would that work for our elementary

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Harvey Scribner: love it

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Harvey Scribner: uh oh

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noel: Magpi does it

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Allison Carpenter: yes

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Harvey Scribner: how about animals on the mooon

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Harvey Scribner: kidding

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noel: too dusty

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Jill Greiner: But animals in a different environment...

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Harvey Scribner: Lets Disect a Moose

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Jill Greiner: PA and add habitat

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Harvey Scribner: each class gets an environment

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Harvey Scribner: Desert, Cold, Rainforest, etc

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Harvey Scribner: kids get an animal and we run a gameshow style

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noel: Jeopardy

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Harvey Scribner: kids get randomly called on and introduce their animal

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Harvey Scribner: the game show?

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Jill Greiner: like game show

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noel: Animal Jeopardy by habitat or

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noel: Yes the game show

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Moderator: I like Animal Jeopardy

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Moderator: no...

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noel: no

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Moderator: we like Animal Jeapardy

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Jill Greiner: "animal" gets introduced - student pretents to be the animal

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noel: I just made that up

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noel: not joking

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Harvey Scribner: that is awesome Noel

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Harvey Scribner: very cool

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Harvey Scribner: yes

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Moderator: game show

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noel: are you smarter than the animal.....questions about the animals

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Moderator: they pick a category and make up the questions

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Harvey Scribner: we can insert characatures of the animals for fun

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Harvey Scribner: or animation

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noel: yes!

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Harvey Scribner: how original is this idea though

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Harvey Scribner: how can we make it ours

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noel: I never saw it

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Moderator: they do a "guess this animal" type of tying

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Moderator: thing

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Harvey Scribner: we prestage prize packs for fun too

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Jill Greiner: Based on the ever-popular MysteryQuest developed by Berrien County RESA in Michigan, this project is designed for 3rd and 4th grade students studying animals. Through video conference technology, students are able to meet other students in from MAGPI member schools while learning about the habitats, habits and structure of various animals. Prior to the video conference each classroom will create a presentation with clues about a mystery animal. The other classrooms, using the Internet, textbooks, prior knowledge and other resources, try to discover the identity of the mystery animal.

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Allison Carpenter: That's more like a "Guess Who" kinda game...I'm invisioning ours as Jeopardy style

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Moderator: I like that

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Allison Carpenter: me too!

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Moderator: it's fun and they learn about an animal exclusive to them

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noel: see you!!!

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Moderator: see ya!

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Jill Greiner: Sounds great!

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Allison Carpenter: yes

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noel: Much easier

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Jill Greiner: yes

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noel: sounds good

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Jill Greiner: Sounds right

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noel: thanks for doing this Vernice!!!

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Allison Carpenter: thanks for organizing this Vernice...it worked out great

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noel: I think this worked well
